南充：孩子小区内骑车撞伤老人，物业担责吗？
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0.544px;">反映，临街商铺老板家小孩在小区内骑自行车将他撞伤，他想知道小区物业应不应该承担赔偿责任。</span></p><p style="text-align:left;box-sizing: border-box;user-select: inherit;text-indent: 2em;font-size: 17px;line-height: 1.6;color: rgb(51, 51, 51);max-width: 100%;margin-bottom: 10px !important;font-family: 微软雅黑, SimSun, 宋体;"><br/></p><section data-role="title" data-tools="135编辑器" data-id="93106"><section style="box-sizing:border-box;max-width: 100% !important;width: 100%;text-align: center;margin:10px auto;" data-width="100%"><section style="display: inline-block;z-index: 9999;"><section><section style="display: flex;justify-content: center;margin-left: 6px;margin-bottom:1px;"><section style="box-sizing:border-box;width: 100%;height: 5px;border-top: 1px solid #ff972c;border-right: 1px solid #ff972c;border-left: 1px solid #ff972c;border-bottom: none;z-index: 9999;overflow: hidden;max-width: 100% !important;" data-width="100%"><br/></section></section><section style="display:flex;justify-content: center;"><section 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宋体;margin-bottom: 10px !important;"><span style="font-size: 15px;">当天，记者来到住友小区看到，在该小区两道大门中，其中一道大门持续开启，另一道大门则建有道闸和行人门禁。</span></p><p style="text-align:justify;box-sizing: border-box;user-select: inherit;text-indent: 2em;font-size: 17px;line-height: 1.6;color: rgb(51, 51, 51);max-width: 100%;font-family: 微软雅黑, SimSun, 宋体;margin-bottom: 10px !important;"><span style="font-size: 15px;">何大爷告诉说，去年9月16日，82岁的他沿小区通道散步时，一名8岁男童骑自行车撞上他，导致其当场倒地。当时，附近还有3名小孩在骑自行车。</span></p><p style="text-align:justify;box-sizing: border-box;user-select: inherit;text-indent: 2em;font-size: 17px;line-height: 1.6;color: rgb(51, 51, 51);max-width: 100%;font-family: 微软雅黑, SimSun, 宋体;margin-bottom: 10px !important;"><span style="font-size: 15px;">男童父亲黎先生在该小区临街商铺经营药店。事发后，黎先生拨打120由救护车将何大爷送到医院治疗。经诊断，何大爷被撞倒地后出现腰椎压缩性骨折。</span></p><p style="text-align:justify;box-sizing: border-box;user-select: inherit;text-indent: 2em;font-size: 17px;line-height: 1.6;color: rgb(51, 51, 51);max-width: 100%;font-family: 微软雅黑, SimSun, 宋体;margin-bottom: 10px !important;"><span style="font-size: 15px;">黎先生承担了何大爷所有治疗费用。出院后，何大爷长时间在家休养，并提出由黎先生赔偿营养费、护理费等共计3万元。</span></p><p style="text-align:justify;box-sizing: border-box;user-select: inherit;text-indent: 2em;font-size: 17px;line-height: 1.6;color: rgb(51, 51, 51);max-width: 100%;font-family: 微软雅黑, SimSun, 宋体;margin-bottom: 10px !important;"><span style="font-size: 15px;">对于承担全部治疗费用和大部分营养费、护理费等，黎先生表示，未成年人闯祸，监护人理应承担责任。黎先生又向何大爷支付了2.2万元，但同时提出小区物业也应承担一定责任，其余8000元应由小区物业赔偿。何大爷予以认同，希望小区物业赔偿8000元，但遭到物业拒绝。</span></p><section style="margin: 10px auto;box-sizing: border-box;user-select: inherit;max-width: 100%;color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size: 17px;text-align: center;font-family: 微软雅黑, SimSun, 宋体;"><strong style="user-select: inherit;max-width: 100%;max-inline-size: 100%;cursor: text;box-sizing: border-box !important;outline: none 0px !important;"><img class="rich_pages wxw-img" data-ratio="0.7027777777777777" 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#00b0f0;box-sizing: border-box !important;outline: none 0px !important;">事发现场</span></strong></p><section data-role="title" data-tools="135编辑器" data-id="93106"><section style="box-sizing:border-box;max-width: 100% !important;width: 100%;text-align: center;margin:10px auto;" data-width="100%"><section style="display: inline-block;z-index: 9999;"><section><section style="display: flex;justify-content: center;margin-left: 6px;margin-bottom:1px;"><section style="box-sizing:border-box;width: 100%;height: 5px;border-top: 1px solid #ff972c;border-right: 1px solid #ff972c;border-left: 1px solid #ff972c;border-bottom: none;z-index: 9999;overflow: hidden;max-width: 100% !important;" data-width="100%"><br/></section></section><section style="display:flex;justify-content: center;"><section style="display: inline-block;"><section style="border-width: 1px;border-style: solid;border-color: #3f3f3f;font-size: 16px;background-image: initial;background-position: initial;background-size: initial;background-repeat: initial;background-attachment: initial;background-origin: initial;background-clip: initial;letter-spacing: 2px;line-height: 1.75em;"><section data-brushtype="text" style="padding-right: 1em;padding-bottom: 2px;padding-left: 1em;box-sizing: border-box;"><p style="text-indent: 0em;"><strong>事后追责 </strong></p><p style="text-indent: 0em;"><strong>小区物业认为不应赔偿</strong></p></section></section></section><section style="box-sizing:border-box;width: 5px;border-right: 1px solid #ff972c;border-bottom: 1px solid #ff972c;margin-bottom: 6px;margin-left: 1px;margin-top: -1px;height: 1px;overflow: hidden;"><br/></section></section></section></section></section></section><p style="text-align:justify;box-sizing: border-box;user-select: inherit;text-indent: 2em;font-size: 17px;line-height: 1.6;color: rgb(51, 51, 51);max-width: 100%;font-family: 微软雅黑, SimSun, 宋体;margin-bottom: 10px !important;"><span style="font-size: 15px;"><span style="text-indent: 2em;letter-spacing: 0.544px;caret-color: red;">何大爷说，黎先生只是小区临街门面经营业主，并非小区住户，黎先生的儿子在小区内骑车属于“外来人员进入小区”。根据《道路交通安全法实施条例》，驾驶自行车必须年满12周岁。何大爷认为物业没有制止8岁男童在小区骑自行车，未尽到管理职责，因此应该承担一定责任。</span><strong style="box-sizing: border-box;user-select: inherit;max-width: 100%;"></strong></span></p><p style="text-align:justify;box-sizing: border-box;user-select: inherit;text-indent: 2em;font-size: 17px;line-height: 1.6;color: rgb(51, 51, 51);max-width: 100%;font-family: 微软雅黑, SimSun, 宋体;margin-bottom: 10px !important;"><span style="font-size: 15px;">值守在紧靠事发处的门卫表示，此前何大爷被撞时，曾在大门值守的门卫已被辞退，原因和何大爷被撞有关。该门卫还说，除快递员、外卖员等，日常外来人员要进入小区需和居民联系才会放行。</span></p><p style="text-align:justify;box-sizing: border-box;user-select: inherit;text-indent: 2em;font-size: 17px;line-height: 1.6;color: rgb(51, 51, 51);max-width: 100%;font-family: 微软雅黑, SimSun, 宋体;margin-bottom: 10px !important;"><span style="font-size: 15px;">记者采访住友小区物业服务中心经理徐女士，她表示，没有对何大爷进行赔偿，原因是何大爷当时没有报警也没有通知物业。对于是否会进行赔偿，徐女士表示无法做主，得问物业公司负责人。</span></p><p style="text-align:justify;box-sizing: border-box;user-select: inherit;text-indent: 2em;font-size: 17px;line-height: 1.6;color: rgb(51, 51, 51);max-width: 100%;font-family: 微软雅黑, SimSun, 宋体;margin-bottom: 10px !important;"><span style="font-size: 15px;">负责该小区物业的南充瑞馨物业管理有限公司负责人谢女士表示，即便黎先生是租下临街门面经营也算业主，不属于外来人员。对于何大爷提出赔偿，谢女士质疑：“为啥当时不找物业？现在黎先生没有全部赔偿就来找物业。”她认为物业不应该赔偿。</span><strong style="text-indent: 2em;letter-spacing: 0.544px;user-select: inherit;max-width: 100%;max-inline-size: 100%;cursor: text;box-sizing: border-box !important;outline: none 0px !important;"></strong></p><section style="margin: 10px auto;box-sizing: border-box;user-select: inherit;max-width: 100%;color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size: 17px;text-align: center;font-family: 微软雅黑, SimSun, 宋体;"><strong style="user-select: inherit;max-width: 100%;max-inline-size: 100%;cursor: text;box-sizing: border-box !important;outline: none 0px !important;"><img class="rich_pages wxw-img" data-ratio="0.6055555555555555" 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#00b0f0;box-sizing: border-box !important;outline: none 0px !important;">小区一道大门持续开启</span></strong></p><p style="text-align:left;box-sizing: border-box;user-select: inherit;text-indent: 2em;font-size: 17px;line-height: 1.6;color: rgb(51, 51, 51);max-width: 100%;max-inline-size: 100%;cursor: text;margin-bottom: 10px !important;outline: none 0px !important;font-family: 微软雅黑, SimSun, 宋体;"><br/></p><section data-role="title" data-tools="135编辑器" data-id="93106"><section style="box-sizing:border-box;max-width: 100% !important;width: 100%;text-align: center;margin:10px auto;" data-width="100%"><section style="display: inline-block;z-index: 9999;"><section><section style="display: flex;justify-content: center;margin-left: 6px;margin-bottom:1px;"><section style="box-sizing:border-box;width: 100%;height: 5px;border-top: 1px solid #ff972c;border-right: 1px solid #ff972c;border-left: 1px solid #ff972c;border-bottom: none;z-index: 9999;overflow: hidden;max-width: 100% !important;" data-width="100%"><br/></section></section><section style="display:flex;justify-content: center;"><section style="display: inline-block;"><section style="border-width: 1px;border-style: solid;border-color: #3f3f3f;font-size: 16px;background-image: initial;background-position: initial;background-size: initial;background-repeat: initial;background-attachment: initial;background-origin: initial;background-clip: initial;letter-spacing: 2px;line-height: 1.75em;"><section data-brushtype="text" style="padding-right: 1em;padding-bottom: 2px;padding-left: 1em;box-sizing: border-box;"><p style="text-indent: 0em;"><strong>律师说法 </strong></p><p style="text-indent: 0em;"><strong>物业服务包括安全巡查和防范</strong></p></section></section></section><section style="box-sizing:border-box;width: 5px;border-right: 1px solid #ff972c;border-bottom: 1px solid #ff972c;margin-bottom: 6px;margin-left: 1px;margin-top: -1px;height: 1px;overflow: hidden;"><br/></section></section></section></section></section></section><p style="text-align:justify;box-sizing: border-box;user-select: inherit;text-indent: 2em;font-size: 17px;line-height: 1.6;color: rgb(51, 51, 51);max-width: 100%;max-inline-size: 100%;cursor: text;font-family: 微软雅黑, SimSun, 宋体;margin-bottom: 10px !important;outline: none 0px !important;"><span style="font-size: 15px;text-indent: 2em;letter-spacing: 0.544px;caret-color: red;">四川罡兴律师事务所主任任静介绍，《南充市物业管理条例》第三十六条规定，物业服务事项应当包括安全巡查和防范、公共秩序维护和突发事件应急处置等工作。除此之外，根据《中华人民共和国民法典》第一千一百九十八条规定，经营场所、公共场所的经营者、管理者或者群众性活动的组织者，未尽到安全保障义务，造成他人损害的，应当承担侵权责任。因第三人的行为造成他人损害的，由第三人承担侵权责任；经营者、管理者或者组织者未尽到安全保障义务的，承担相应的补充责任。<br/></span></p><p style="text-align:justify;box-sizing: border-box;user-select: inherit;text-indent: 2em;font-size: 17px;line-height: 1.6;color: rgb(51, 51, 51);max-width: 100%;font-family: 微软雅黑, SimSun, 宋体;margin-bottom: 10px !important;"><strong><span style="font-size: 15px;color: #007aaa;">任静表示，何大爷被撞受伤，如果物业公司未按照法律规定履行案涉小区公共区域安全保障义务，对何大爷的受伤存在过错，应当承担相应赔偿责任。</span></strong></p><p 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0px;max-width: 100%;text-align: center;box-sizing: border-box !important;overflow-wrap: break-word !important;"><span style="outline: 0px;max-width: 100%;font-size: 12px;box-sizing: border-box !important;overflow-wrap: break-word !important;">来源 | 南充晚报</span></p><p style="outline: 0px;max-width: 100%;font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, 'Helvetica Neue', 'PingFang SC', 'Hiragino Sans GB', 'Microsoft YaHei UI', 'Microsoft YaHei', Arial, sans-serif;letter-spacing: 0.544px;text-align: center;visibility: visible;box-sizing: border-box !important;overflow-wrap: break-word !important;"><br/></p></section></section></section></section><p style="display: none;"><mp-style-type data-value="3"></mp-style-type></p> 物业有人管就可免责，无物业人员监管，制止就必须担责。 物业说法让人寒心 看过这篇报道，律师说的有责任 物业躺枪？ 不应物业担责 都在甩锅 是担责还是甩锅？那就看事态的发展了。 家长也要注意安全 老大爷找错了人头吧？马路上小车撞了行人、是不是要找交警？ 从孩在小区疯跑、没有监护人迈？ 物业有苦说不出？ 应该承担部分监管责任主要责任鉿在监督人 都要负责 不应该是物业有责，是社区安全宣传不到位的责任
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